The Dojo met Friday, July 15, 2022. Moderated by James True.
Transcript
um i’m in sault ste marie michigan the upper peninsula
of michigan awesome hi james
hey hello
where are you lindsay i’m in um san diego california
a town called encinitas oh i love encinitas yes please i’m here
oh awesome yeah yeah pretty nice yeah
very nice yeah have you been here before to this dojo no well i i dropped in like
a couple weeks ago and then i was i just it was short term and i had to go
because it was only on the fourth of july and so i haven’t been back since and um
i don’t really know you know what it’s all about kind of cool i’m totally new to it so
um i i discovered james work james’s work just a few weeks ago and so i’ve kind of just
gone down the rabbit hole and i’m like so i’m curious about the community fun
yeah that’s how it all starts how long have you been doing dojo
um about since um october 2020.
oh my gosh okay your veteran status wow yeah
yeah sorry i don’t know sort of i’ve been around for a minute in the background
debbie and hugh hello i’m social today i’m saying hi to
everyone man i just make i just really made a friend mad
his great uncle walked on the moon and i’m
telling him how i feel as quietly as i can
yeah he’s really smart too very very
very challenging to to try and have a conversation with
someone about about cosmology when they’ve never really thought about that before
and when their great uncle’s been on the moon it’s kind of like why would you want to destroy that
why would you want to take away your family story that your great uncle walked on the moon was he asking your opinion
so turned out it’s an old friend long long time ago
and uh i named one of my characters in my book after him he just discovered my work out of the
blue and he’s been following me and now he finally got to the
the satellite stuff and he’s like texting me this really cutting like what do you mean satellites are
real and it’s just like i’m just you know
here’s what i think that’s all it’s more fun when they’re smart when
they’re really really smart and you have to really be sharp about your your stance
yep anyway uh 12 30 let me see is uh
all right welcome to where you’re recording welcome to dojo good to have you guys here
uh hope everybody’s doing well i don’t uh see any hands i’ve been uh
just deeply immersed in reading and whatnot so i don’t really have like a a topic or anything um so
i don’t know if anyone else uh maybe does instead or something that
they could bring but uh i just been trying to read up on the soul stuff from a presentation i some of you probably
got today uh there’s no go ahead hey noam
i’m sorry actually it’s gwen um so
how you doing um so i’m kind of right in the middle of
this thing with my sister and um i feel like i might ramble so forgive me
in advance uh this is something antonio doesn’t even know because what’s happening at the
grocery store and texts for flying and um so it’s not bad about my sister it’s
just that she’s in the middle of a job search right now in um another state and we’re both in
teaching and she’s had a really rough go of it as far as like losing jobs for
dumb reasons and um they make them go through like
the most amazing you know jump through hoops for all of the interview process like you have to
do demonstrations and you have to do interviews and now she has a written task and the written task is really
stupid so um my what i’m trying to do is help my sister
um respond to this written task and i’m having such an emotional response to it
that like i can’t get to a place where i can help her and what’s complicating matters is my
mom was in the middle of some of this texting going on and she’s like she’s bringing up weird old that’s more
about me like the situation which is something that my mom does that
drives my sister crazy so all of this stuff is complicating the whole picture
um so the question that she’s supposed to answer is um
zeitrum is um basically there’s a discrepancy between
what the child is doing in the class and results of the tools that they use
to assess them and i’m like oh my god you know like basically your job is to explain this to
the parents and appearances your confidence and so i’m like that is the stupidest
question ever first of all like she’s dealing with like two or three
points of data basically which no teacher would ever have like she’s gonna know so much more about the situation
like she’s going to already have answered a whole bunch of questions that need to be answered before you’re gonna
respond to the parent and so i think i’m just frustrated about like
schools in general right now and the fact that like we’re not even talking about the fact that all kids are behind
like we don’t have permission yet to say well it’s not the kid’s fault it’s just
that everything’s up because government like nobody’s able to say
that like you’re not allowed to i don’t think like i probably wouldn’t like why would you risk it
so there’s all of this crap and i’m like none of that really matters what mattered is my sister is applying for a
job and she needs to answer this question and she needs my input without all this other
baggage that’s happening and so i’m just having a hard time because i feel like okay i just want to help my sister and
then like there’s a whole there’s a pile here and here and here that all
just like came on top of it i’m like i can’t figure out how to respond without being super negative right now
negative’s not bad it’s okay if that’s what’s gonna come out i don’t think you have to
you said a lot of like asking for permission and i don’t think we’re allowed to and da da i think the handcuffs might start on you a little
bit in that regard you know you feel like you can’t say this also your mom involved complicates
it so much and i would be interested to say what she’s what is she saying about you and is it your little sister or big
sister so um
it’s my older sister and what was coming up for my mom is the fact
that i was diagnosed as an adult with adv and she always knew there was something going on like before there was a dd
back in school i was like i was the kid that was constantly looking out the window like
you know had no idea what was going on and you know the bell would ring people be
getting up and i’d be like what’s happening like so my mom always knew that there was
something going on and teachers would make comments like daydreamy and this and the point my mom was trying to make
is like coming from a parent’s perspective like i think it’s a really good question and it’s like
you know would have been really helpful when you were in school and i was just like oh my god mom it’s
not about us it’s about this other little kid and they’re getting a job like we don’t need to like
dig up old history in the middle of it’s like merida’s really stressed right now on top of like
like that’s part of why my sister has a really hard time with my mom right now
because she doesn’t know how to separate that because my mom will just always go to
well it must be something wrong with you it’s a good question you know what like we
never got supported really we never got so i guess i feel like i’m trying to support my sister in the way that
she wishes she had been supported as a child and is not even being supported as
an adult like my mom is focused on like her boyfriend and having a cold
like in the middle of like the most dark stressful time that my sister could be going to so you know it just she
complicates it so oh my god that’s so heavy and i also
feel like um add is like the best gift ever like it
means you’re not susceptible to being pounded into this routine of like let’s just make our
little automatrons now i also got pushed into i think you’re bipolar your range
of emotion is just too much i was like i just whatever get out of here so that’s
that’s really tough and i think i don’t know gwen i ca it’s hard to even
imagine you in a um in the school system and sort of dealing with all this given
the way i think i know how you feel about everything going on and started damn homeschool i’ll come to it
that’s it all good i
i mean it’s not like it was a cakewalk through the whole kobe thing
like there was a lot of vitriol that came up you know just us feeling the way we do about the mask
and covet and everything and battles with principles over masks and
like it wasn’t fun but like in the end like you just get
through it because hey it’s a job and i do want to help kids like
it’s my avenue to help children because that’s what i feel called to do you know so and it doesn’t matter if i’m in a
school system or a private practice or wherever you go there’s going to be to deal with so i’m choosing to
deal with this particular and try and help kids anyway which i’ve been able to
do pretty successfully so there’s that but yeah it’s just
unwrapping all of that so that i can give a sort of helpful productive response because she doesn’t need you
know more vitriol or to have a board to her face or anything like that i need to be
able to just be like okay we answered this question and this question and this question and
hey we came up with a good response you know kind of thing whereas i feel like i can’t even really analyze it right now
because i’m like i’m so stupid like why are they even asking her
they have people in the district that can’t cut a hole in a paper plate working with children
and yet like they’re looking for some level of you know mastery of performance and magicianhood
it’s not matched to reality in my view right now but
it is gwen can you um tell me what the question the exact
question was again or like reiterate the question about
vikram yeah what is that but it wasn’t even a question really the task was what do you
do to perfect prepare for the parent conference with this kid
who is sounds like to me the way the question was phrased doing well in class but not
doing well on tests that’s what i took from it and then and then your sister answers
that and and then they evaluate our answer i don’t there’s no guidelines you
know she had a bunch of questions listed which i think is good maybe somebody else will perceive that as like well
you’re not going to go into the parent conference with all these questions you know like again the question itself is stupid i
can’t give you enough information about all the other things the child is doing you know how are they interacting with
their friends what their what is their emotional thing like are they you know do they never say anything to anybody or
they can’t get getting it you know like there’s just so many more pieces of information that you don’t have available
to make a good explanation like you want to explain something about
a person’s child with all the information so that you can paint a picture of the whole child and they’re
giving you like two three tiny bits of information to
you know say why it’s description it’s probably something like that they’re really looking for how does she deal
with parents right they don’t care about the information they don’t care about the actual example like they’re probably
looking for something like that but they’re not saying that they’re just offering this dumb question that out of context doesn’t actually fit in reality
yeah that i mean what i i we would get a lot of those in law school you know where there really is no
right answer it’s just a matter of how you know what’s her view on that
right so with just those little facts um
you would explain to the parent that that the uh
obviously test results don’t reflect always you know somehow she would explain the inadequate
the inadequacies of a test even though we use a test as tools um it all you know it doesn’t always
measure the whatever she wants to say and then leave it um but
yeah i i know i’m bringing it to answering your sister’s question
and i think that probably this whole um you’re bringing it up is
is uh there’s more to work out than just the answer to the question but um
yeah anyways i was just real curious about the question itself that that spurred all this so
i i have a lot more context obviously about all the history and everything like that i guess one thing i’m curious
about is like so me and gwen have talked about her sister situation and actually have talked positively about the notion
of her getting bored uh as a way to like kind of get her unstuck well why that’s why i don’t get this
reaction seems very strange like that’s how vitriol increases it gets worse and worse like that’s that’s how the board
start hitting you so you think i should tell her well i just don’t i’m just i’m surprised how
much you’re reacting to emotionally to it like that’s the first time i’ve seen you react out emotionally to just
one of her interviews being weird um
yeah i guess that’s probably why i was bringing it back
it just felt like it was bringing up weird stuff with my mom and
then even before that just sort of
her being put in the situation where like maybe partly
i think what you’re trying to get at is that really we want her to move we want her to see that her life is not
working there anymore and like i do want her to get to that point but i don’t
want to kick her while she’s down so she gets there sooner i guess
because it feels inevitable like she keeps coming up against
the message that this life is not working anymore for you it’s time to
move on but you know sort of like some you can’t wake somebody up and be like come on
wake up and yell at the flowers so to speak like i feel like i have to just
be there when she’s ready to make that move
gwen who was the uh you guys were had a there was a dinner
and you were helping with dinner and the person that was hosting the party was like
treating you like you were quarantined but she didn’t have the the manners to even tell you that
who was that that was my best friend kevin okay okay so no relation to this i just it’s it’s interesting that
that i think when you’re seeing similar ripples in reality around you where
people around you they’re raising the temperature on you holding your truth and they’re raising
the temperature on you being able to just be polite and not say anything out loud is what i’m trying to say
and i think whether you want it or not you’re on an inevitable one-way course down the road of having to speak out and
say something and it’s going to be really expensive and it’s going to hurt and it’s going to
you’re going to feel probably bad for it and i i just can’t wait to to watch you go through that pain and to express
express how agonizing you if it might have even been uh in as you as you move through it because it
feels like the the fate has has found you in in its crosshairs and you were going
to be required to have to to say something
i think it’s tied into this notion of becoming more anxious for her you seem very hung up on this extra question
hitting her when she’s down making it even more anxious so it’s kind of all wrapped up and if you feel that you have
some role in that and causing that it all seems wrapped up in some of that
i guess because i’m such an empath like it feels like it’s
happening to me if i do it to her she’s my sister it’s gonna feel like it’s happening to me too
it’s happening for you not to you okay
that’s what i think it’s an invitation to heal some deep stuff that you wouldn’t have found
otherwise yeah heal yourself
and people around you heal that’s it
i also i wonder too and i could be off base but i just get this feeling
that you feel like something’s unfair you know there’s something unfair about all this
and my experiences when something like that comes up it’s usually because you’ve experienced something that’s unfair
that you haven’t dealt with perhaps just a thought
just one random side note about my wife’s uh work in the school system uh is that the
more babylon up these kids with the vaccines and the masks
she’s a speech therapist so the more she actually is needed and successfully
helps these children like they need that exact help and it works so it’s this weird place where she can be in a system
that maybe funding kids full lives and institutionalizing all these other ways but like basic communication
um that’s useful for everybody um so it’s it’s it’s a weird
there’s almost a dissonance to to to that
i was going to say that too big time working with handcuffs on is how it feels
yeah sometimes in the school system it does but i think to some extent i knew
i knew myself i knew that i didn’t like bureaucracy and i thought i was never gonna work in the schools
but it turned out at that time it was the right decision and i don’t regret it but i did tell myself at the time
there’s going to be that you have to deal with like you’re gonna have to just deal with
it and move on so you can do the part that you love and that’s pretty much what i’ve done because there’s still little kids in
there that like need help that are going to have a better day because i was there
you know so there’s that they can’t take that part away as long as the kids are there
i realize though too not all is created equally and like you know we just like to
not pretend but say like oh well you gotta deal with every everywhere you go and i don’t know you you kind of get to
choose your problems in a way too i mean i’m not you’re really in it you’re really really in it my part wants to be
like leave it that you don’t need to be in there i don’t know why you are you know that’s just that’s just me
and my but i unlike you are dealing with bureaucracy and never really wanted to but you’re
already in so deep in it so you feel like i mean it’ll make it all the more desperate because you’re already
in it like but i want to just tell you to get out of it completely and
that doesn’t make any sense for you in your life but that’s what my my my gut is like just
there are so many ways to help kids i get that working within these confinements is what’s working for you
but something in me is screaming at you to get
i think that’s james influence he he’s not big on the education so must be
doesn’t he well well i mean the school also comes with some community um and
and for the add thing the structure because she was working freelancing going to people’s homes when i met her
um and that and i even went with her translating a few times uh as a translator so i got to actually work
directly with her which is cool so i know exactly kind of what she can do and see it but um that’s more chaos like
it’s just more chaos prone right like there’s a there’s a element of structure that that provides an add person that is
actually useful if you say so i’ve seen both
well i think that that we need people on the death star to subvert the death star from inside of it so
just want to throw that out there that that’s just as important if not more important so i’d rather turn
stormtroopers there’s plenty ewoks they’re they’re all over the place
if if we’re going to win this we’re going to need more stormtroopers so
and there’s trash privileges on level three debbie go ahead
yeah speaking of trauma bonding that’s what we do at school to form community i
totally relate you know i’m in there with you as a stormtrooper and i just
you know appreciate the fact that you brought all this here obviously
when you’re talking about like as i’m first listening to you i’m feeling that um
you know there’s a tiger you’re feeling a tiger somewhere but it’s not in the room it’s definitely not
in the room but you’re responding as if it is which always tells me that
like other people have said here today you know it’s definitely some other deeper
thing probably from your childhood and your relation to your sister and your mother and all that story stuff um which
is always good good to look at that you know because it seems like as you’re talking about it you’ve gotten
more relaxed which is good you got to dump some energy
but i don’t know if there’s something that needs to be said because i i’m not familiar enough with
the whole situation i’m kind of yeah i’m not good with details that way but it’s just my impression so it’s good
it’s good to bring out here
so is it that um i’m sorry i missed the first couple of minutes which is why i
hesitate to say anything at all but um it it is it the the so your
sister’s child is doing well in class but not doing well on the standardized standardized
testing and she’s having a parent teacher conference and she because you’re an educator was asking
your opinion on how to prepare for the conference is that is that the job
her sister is going through a variety of interview processes for a new job and they were giving her a mock
example question of how she would conduct um a meeting with parents in
regard to a very specific issue but the way it was presented to her was just kind of unrealistic and out of place and
it was just kind of very confusing and nonsensical how you would even respond and it was creating a lot of vitriol and
that caused some crazy response in gwen that was uh more emotionally explosive than she even
expected right well it is so i mean it is so much in those
in that situation and it and um
yeah i i tried so hard to work you know when my kid was in school i
tried so hard to like make it so that he could be there
and not participate in a lot of the and um it took a lot of calories to borrow
some of james’s lingo it took a lot of calories you know i was exempting him first i exempted him from
the you know the vaccine requirements and then i said don’t feed him your food i’ll send him with his own food and and then i
said uh we’re not gonna do the standardized testing so don’t don’t don’t test him
um and then i was about to tell him not to give him homework and then i’m like you know what this i just need to take him out of school because
i’m like exempting him from school while he’s going to school so
um but i don’t know like the parent teacher conferences were always such a joke you know you go in there and you have to sit
at the little like you have to sit on the kids furniture i always thought that was so weird like
they have you sit on these tiny kids kid chairs they won’t give you a grown-up chair
i don’t know i think part of my response going to the point you’re pointing about the parent conferences were kind of
anyway like i that was part of my response too i think is that
like she’s basically being invited to make up okay just make some
up so it sounds nice for the parents and let’s move on like that’s what i felt
like she was being asked to do and i’m like wait no like that kid and
that parent deserve more than that i guess maybe that was part of my response like what are we doing well maybe maybe
she could make up some really good and it would help them well luckily she’s such a good teacher and
she’s so well educated that i’m quite sure she’s going to be able to come come up with something that is fine you know
so i’m i’m definitely overreacting to it i will put that out there
well you’re probably very competent and and you actually care about these types of things so
having a kid that’s on the spectrum and was went through uh working with a speech therapist for for
years so till she graduated from from high school was in elementary school was great
it was so pivotal you know i was just so grateful for that consistent work with her and like i said
thinking a couple of judges ago she didn’t even know she was autistic but they really helped her out so i’m
just like hats off to you gordon debbie i think you’re a speech therapist too
no okay anyway um you know public school for my kids yeah
they traumatized them for sure but you know i think it it’s always the opportunity to make them stronger
and teachers are really important they had some great teachers so i’m not going to just teachers or public school really
holy you know like come on come on i went to public school look at me
all right i’m out
my son had to have speech therapy too when he was there i think if they’d kept him they would
have tried to tell me that he was adhd which you know i guess he is but i don’t
i don’t care um but the speech therapist that that helped him
it was so she was just like he makes too much spit when he’s talking
so i’m teaching him to swallow his spit in between
sentences and her measure of success was that she peeked in on him in the classroom and he
saw her face and he swallowed his spit so whatever she was doing was working
nope that was the write-up that i got and i’m like okay what school system where what
state are you in vermont i’m sure this is every school i’m sure
this is every state i’m sure it is you’ll have some different paint colors
and different textures on the walls but it’s the same thing and
i would not have survived if i would have been homeschooled oh my god i would have been so much worse if my mom would
have been in charge of my education holy i’d be be obliterated right now just be a
mess so it’s definitely choose your trauma isn’t it and i don’t know if private school really would have been
the best thing for me although i really would have loved to have the opportunity to even test into that
but it’s all going to be it’s all going to be trauma you get to picture pick your flavor of
it that’s all right it’s uh it’s a bonding ceremony
the level of competency these days the spectrum is wider than i’ve ever experienced it i feel like i mean she
had a person that had trained like just enough to like be an assistant to a speech therapist and was doing her
kind of final steps of her training um and she couldn’t answer the difference between what expressive and receptive
language was like i can answer that from translating speech therapy
consults with parents and stuff like and this was someone that apparently hit school right so like
it’s just the range is amazing right now so my sister also worked with an assistant at her school
and this is in another state so it is truly everywhere that could not cut a
hole in a paper plate like she was standing there with a scissors and so i guess that’s the other reason my blood
boils when i think about the fact that like why are they even making her do this like she can cut a hole
the level of incompetence of people working out there right now does not warrant this level of an interview
process like her previous teaching experience and her
danielson’s gorge which is the evaluation they use like um
get are always really high and she just she’s really good at what she
does and there’s enough proof so she should not be having to like go through all this
rigmarole when there’s so many horrible people in the teaching world out there right now that’s why she’s going through it
because it’s so horrible this is like it doesn’t make sense i don’t think it’s
supposed to the interview process everywhere has gotten insane
nothing like when i’ve ever interviewed for any job you know and
god it’s like a six month process and you know this interview and that interview and oh
my god and you think of the money and the time that’s going into you know the electricity that’s being wasted on all
this it’s amazing to me because i see it i’m watching a friend do it right now as
a matter of fact and i can see your frustration with that and at that whole thing in general it’s like you complain
about um the schools not having enough money and this is what you know the
bureaucracy has so much of that tied up you know
by the way i’m a teacher assistant in special ed uh strategies in autism
just for the record so i don’t i’m not certified i’m classified
and i don’t have to do a lot of the res the responsibility stuff
which is pretty great i don’t have these elaborate evaluations but i can get in
there in the trenches and actually do a lot of what the teachers do you
know you probably know that right you have and i think it’s the same in every state i’ve taught in a couple
you know i’ve assisted in a couple different uh states and pretty much the same
yeah i was also gonna well let’s finish this first and then i
wanted to go on and talk a little bit about a past dojo and something i said about
autism and i thought we could explore that more anybody else have something for i have i
have one thing what occurred to me as we’re having this conversation is
i wonder what it is that they’re really solving for are they really solving
for someone who accepts the and they know it’s a question
and they want a answer and someone who digs in and gives a real solid
answer they’re like oh this one could be trouble you know i mean it just makes me wonder
because the system is so corrupt now so out there you know what is it that they’re actually trying to
weed out and weed in so to speak
i wonder if it’s just people that will endure like maybe people are just going to a job lasting six months and leaving
constantly so like all right we need to make sure this person can take it that’s that’s called having aptitude
standard aptitude test is checking your ability to survive just total bureaucratic and just
follow orders and obey like just just do what we said no matter how
painful it is that’s who we want working here and it really makes sense if you hire
the renegade you’re going to get penalized for hiring the renegade the renegade’s going to cause nothing but trouble it’s going to disrupt things all
the time because they’re going to want to do things uh in what they considered a more productive way so
even as a human resource agent you find that you’re looking for the tamest most regurgitative most aptitude
aptitudal people that there are so subconsciously you would start to test for that what is your ability to listen
to a regulation and you might find that the more superficial the regulation the better test it is on someone to know
would they just do something just purely because it’s just written down that would be the ultimate test and i
think most of us are tested in that way under the military is highly that way it’s pretty much all that way and i
think you’re just watching corporate america slowly catch up to that kind of uh sort of like a communism really if you
think about it the communism would would require this out of you which is the sort of a disassociation
uh and just uh falling into the routine and just just obeying because because it’s it’s what
you were told to do and if you do what you were told then that would ultimately help the system so
it’s not even a nefarious thing they’re trying to build the best worst system they can
uh and this is how how you get that done anything else on on gwen’s stuff
so i was just going to say my understanding of the roots of public school system
was in uh and i’m going to probably screw this up but in prussia
there was some uh war that they had that a lot of the soldiers were like
defecting and running you know going awol and wouldn’t fight in the
war and they lost terribly and so their solution to that was to
structure public school a public school in a way that created
good order followers and good soldiers that wouldn’t think for themselves and
wouldn’t um leave the battle
and when i read that i was like oh well that explains a lot and um
and that was sort of like the beginning of the end of public school for me was learning about that i think that was
maybe jonathan taylor gatto that i read that on
but it is it’s like a giant game of simon says five days a week yeah and even the general
even the very first public education system the general education board has that written in their mission statement
that we’re not trying to make scientists poets philosophers even leaders here we need a docile
uh human that’s capable of being a groundskeeper and to take care of the land
in a way that we want that was that was the requirement uh of having this general education board so
there’s a really cool school called the sudbury sudbury school
sudbury valley school system it’s like an unschooling school
that started in framingham massachusetts in the 60s
and it’s basically it’s a private school and it’s basically you just send the kid to
um to school and there’s no teachers it’s a democracy that every kid has a
vote the same as every um adult there’s no tenure so every year
the adults are like voted to stay or go by the students and the adults just serve
as resources for the children and the children are not required to be anywhere at any time
they just wander around and learn uh whatever they like you know there’s a science room um there’s
outdoors there’s computers there’s video games there’s all the same subjects that you would
find what’s that um i just want to say that i have a
client whose father helped start that school oh yeah i would love to send my kids to
that school well i just met her like a couple of weeks ago and she works for the city of portland
and like housing and you know what i mean so it’s not like you get out of the system just because you go to school she’s really
cool super cool but it’s interesting like wait a minute that sounds really familiar yeah so just that’s a bit of information
um debbie you want to you want to go ahead talk about the autism thing
not really but i’m going to anyway this is one of those where
uh i feel a lot of tension speaking about this um because i
i said something couple dojos about ago about um what i thought
about people with autism based on my experience um not having
compassion and that we tried to teach them to fake it quote unquote i actually said
that i kind of blurted that out and it was i feel like um after i said it and the
responses i got from renee and kristen
i didn’t know that you guys had children on the spectrum i don’t know if i would have said it
that way if i had known that um because it was pretty
unnuanced let’s say that there may be some truth in it
based on my experience but i thought about this a whole lot over the last week on and off
it was kind of on my back burner and it would pop out and i would have you know different
voices about it and what i um came to was that
it’s like compassion like when you say somebody doesn’t have compassion yeah it kind of sounds like you’re saying well
that’s kind of sociopathic you know or i i certainly wasn’t trying i if i had
thought about it more or i had prepared more i wouldn’t have said it like that i would have said it something more like
um we teach these our kids
what to pay attention to so somebody come okay so here we have a
kid in the corner of the room having a seizure he falls to the ground very dramatic very
noticeable everything changes in the room and he he’s having a grand mal seizure on
the floor and on the other side here’s one of the kids and he’s playing one of his video games which he has earned by working
he’s got his five tokens he’s he’s into that video game 100
he doesn’t look over at that child and when we ask all the kids to leave the room which
they know is what they do when this happens because we have to make room for the ambulance and everybody else
so he had a fit because he had to stop his video game
and uh go outside and never mind that there’s this seizure
happening in the room and then later on a week later he goes
i’m so sorry you had that seizure to the kid you know but it’s like it’s a tension his attention his focus his
witness is on something that is preventing it’s this tunnel vision thing that many
of the children that i’ve worked with have had and it looks like a lack of compassion
it looks like a callousness you know like a complete lack of empathy when it’s in operation like that
and okay what else was it going to say about that yeah so we tried to um
you know kind of point things out you know like later if we can’t do it at that moment
we’ll we’ll go back and we’ll we’ll analyze the situation with the kid that was on the video game you know and a lot
of stuff like that happens i mean i broke my wrist i had a cast on this was it five years ago half the kids didn’t
even notice you know say hey what happened to you you know these are like third to fifth graders
um not that i want sympathy but it shows where attention is sometimes
with our kids and so what i’ve noticed from working now
on the side in my own time with my granddaughters not working with them but hanging out with them and then i’m
spending time with other families that have kids the same age like three four five six i’m just like really curious to
know what that age is like because i haven’t spent that much time with that age group
like your age group right gwen and you know they also will be somewhat like that i
mean they’ll they’ll notice something maybe go into fear but they don’t have that ability necessarily some
of them do but it’s rare where they’re going to put themselves into somebody else’s
you know position and they’re basically like a two-year-old it’s like
they just are focused with their attention on getting what they want and most that uh a lot of times if they
don’t get what they want they have feelings about it they cry you know they have a a tantrum or they
get upset that’s the terrible twos you know it’s like to me it’s a tension
and what your attention tends to go to and a lot of times the two-year-old will like they find these tiny specks on the
floor i remember my granddaughter when she was two she’d be crawling around on the rug or playing down on the rug and
she’ll find this tiny thing like a piece of lint on the rug and she’ll come up to me gaga
you know to show it to me like it was you know the the the focus the perspective is so much
the the dilation the aperture is so much narrower you know at a younger age they
don’t necessarily look up to the clouds and see the sky and i noticed a lot of my kids with autism
these are the ones i’ve worked with they don’t look up to see the clouds you know they don’t look up to see the sky i
mean we actually teach them weather you know to like pay attention to the weather a little
bit you know i don’t know it’s um so i just wanted to
uh clarify that and i have been thinking about it it’s a fascinating subject
i didn’t mean to step on anybody’s toes but that’s the way it happens sometimes sometimes i’m not that articulate
and things just uh puke out of my mouth and then later on i clean a mess or
or i rethink it so that’s what this is about right now i just thought i’d mention it
so yeah i mean i wasn’t necessarily like mad about it i was just kind of like it was so
just like one thing you know there wasn’t any contrast to it they’re they’re like you know like wait
a minute what you know that’s a little what was atomic comment you said again what was the word you said
um they don’t have compassion and passion yeah and we teach them to fake it
that’s well my daughter was very focused when we go on a walk she would take forever because she stopped and look at
every little flower i’m like oh my god like we’re still looking at things and this is before i knew she was on the
spectrum but um how they told me when i went to her first uh
you know preschool like parent-teacher meeting which i was really excited for super excited
and they’re like there’s something about her we’re not really sure and i’m like what wait a minute what
um but she didn’t really like you know engage with the other kids she wouldn’t make eye contact if she was at recess
she’d just kind of walk around in the back corner just kind of looking around and maybe looking at this you know the
sky and and um i think she was just more individuated
you know she i mean i look at the energy she had it so within her
i don’t know i feel like we’re all on the spectrum you know i mean
it’s just humanity and certain things have been taking place in our environment we know what they are
you know that have like skewed a lot more people to these you know extremes and
we call that autism or we give it you know add or adhd there’s so many like
now subdivisions they’ve just the diagnosis keeps expanding the number of
them it’s like at what point are you going to get in there and just you know like like
you say james cure the cause you know and that’s my frustration working in the system is
that nobody talks about that you know you can’t cure it because we have to we
have to insist and be offended that someone would even suggest that something is even wrong
well that’s really
my daughter didn’t like the organization you worked for james she thought it was cure autism now pissed her off
she’s like me she said there’s nothing wrong with her exactly
how is that compassionate her not have anything wrong with her what do you mean
having that perspective how is that compassionate i don’t know
illuminate me i i i’m here saying i still don’t know
what debbie did wrong by saying uh people on the spectrum have a problem with compassion
i i think that’s correct i can make a very strong argument explaining why that is the case 100 true
100 and i i think it’s interesting that debbie i think that debbie is like she’s not saying well i i did something
wrong because i said something wrong she’s saying she feels like she’s this thing wrong because she didn’t say
something in a nuanced way that’s acceptable and she’s really guilty from that i
think is really what it’s more about yeah i mean
i like to be more i don’t know it’s one of my goals is to be more
specific when i speak like use a better choice of words so maybe i’m you know i’m tripping on that but
yeah i mean i always tend to beat myself up not always but a lot of times so
might be one of those situations i think it’s an autoimmune disease
and i think it approaches it it affects you in a psychic way you’re not able to
look at someone directly in the face because you do not have the autoimmune response required to keep and maintain
yourself and so by by results you have no choice in order to cope you have to become less
compassionate in the world hands down there’s just no way around it and because we’re mad at organizations like
cure autism now we’re mad at someone that’s saying i think there’s a problem here we’re doing the exact opposite
which is applying affirmation to the actual wound itself instead of
actually calling it what it truly is and i want you to find more courage in saying things like that debbie not less
i want people to challenge you more and for you to feel the vitriol kind of like what gwen is going through right now
both of you guys are feeling bad because you’re seeing the reality and it doesn’t feel polite to you
and conveying that reality that you see is very painful and hard but that’s why
you’re here that’s the entire purpose of of what’s going on and you need to stand
your ground in that heat and say but it i do see a lack of compassion it
is there and here’s how i see it please educate me how i’m wrong and then that’s when you’re open to your posture and you
know and you grow and learn from that but you shouldn’t be convicting yourself because you said something that made
someone else feel heat that heat is from reality it’s not from you it’s the reality that’s giving them
the heat you just happen to say the word that brought the reality into the the potluck the prana economy that you
have with that person uh communicating right now but are there levels of lack
does lack just like lack you just don’t have it
lack of compassion are there levels that you can lack compassion well sure yeah
levels of lack so there’s some people who maybe don’t lack as much compassion
maybe the kid playing the video game with their grandma’s seizure guy going off you know he just was like percent lack some people might be different
yeah right look over and go oh wow i’m still on a play but is that okay
all right this looks weird okay i don’t know i want to jump in real quick because
of etymology i just wanted to look up this word autism um and i think it’s pretty
interesting that otto’s is self and ism condition so it’s just like a self
condition like you’re kind of just obsessed with self in a way which would
create a world where you’re not concerned with anything else i mean that’s that’s the name there that’s the
that’s the nature of the word itself but i can see kids love animals
typically really let’s say that here
this little side note i don’t know if they always do that i think they’re also prone to hurt animals
and and then be offended at the animal because the animals not acting behave is not behaving properly too
the two towers i don’t get the two towers reference i’m
just saying that i don’t love and to like torture well i think one is more like i don’t
think the other tower’s torture by the way um and i don’t think that torture torture
i think that because they lack compassion they’re finding that they’re doing things that are hurting someone else but they just have no comprehension
of it so it’s not even like a torture would imply that that you have comprehension as to what you’re doing
this is a lack of that it’s a lack of compassion the compassion would sting the moment
that you put yourself in the kitty’s arms that you’re squeezing right now and then that compassion makes you stop
it’s that kind of thing it’s only if you have the electricity to apply to it it’s not that they’re sadistic it’s not that
they’re mean it’s that they lack the ability to pour plasma or right now they lack the the
budget i should say to pour plasma out into someone else because of their own autoimmune deficiency
i agree this is great it’s just good to hear like all these different angles from it
how cool it’s good so it’s really good it’s nervous i would
say nervous system rather than autoimmune though i would just
don’t you think i don’t see how those things are different because you would regulate your body uh through
your nerves based on the tension of your polyvagal all of those things you’re the largest
nerve in your body is gonna seize up when you’re freaked out because there’s too much data coming in or that the
sounds are too loud or the light is too bright or the motion is too fast all of these things are are causing uh
your ability to feel safe to to be degraded and as a natural
healthy result the nicest person in the world if they feel less safe would automatically become less compassionate
simply by the chemist chemistry of the transaction itself so if you’re having if you’re suffering
from a deficiency either if you want to call it auto
neurotic or autoimmune or whatever we want to call it at the end of the day the amount of electricity that’s being
spent in the realm of compassion is uh limited because so much of that electricity is
having to be placed somewhere else i think that’s why the autistic child is encouraged so much
to to find that sublimation bubble because they see peace there and parents
equate peace with happiness and so they just naturally see well if it keeps him busy and occupied then the child’s happy
but it’s not really happy as much as he’s just not able to uh be vulnerable
which is a very different kind of uh place to be really
yeah there’s a huge movement to normalize this the spectrum
yeah it’s a pregnancy bigotry i’m a bigot i’m a bigot for saying what i’ve said before and i and i
will continue to be okay i guess i’m a bigot fine but but i i’ll continue to just document
what i’ve seen and and and what my best guess which is very layman’s yeah i don’t know that’s
okay but i can’t help but just still speak out even if it brings heat because i
think it’s important and i think that it becomes we’re
because we’re normalizing it we will start we’re already testing for this now we’re already what i mean is we’re
already building our tests for students that are artistic so that they will pass so that we can move these people through
the system so the entire thing is normalizing around this new uh
deviation really from from where we’ve been before i’m not saying that we were right before
and we’re wrong now by the way i’m just simply reporting that there’s a massive change in the autoimmune body of what i
would call the typical human from the time when i was 12 until what i’m seeing now
at what’s age 12 right now and i’m not alone in that but only some of us are allowed to actually talk about that the
rest are just going to be called bigots any time i’ve
why aren’t we again talking more about the correlation between autism and
vaccines i mean i think we kind of are without saying it and um it seems like before
starting maybe about seven years ago or so i started it i
lots of people were talking about the vaccines and the correlation
between the the um normalizing of autism and
it just seems like maybe we could again start talking about it
maybe um just in you know do you think it would be censored more
again this ableism thing is a is a is an inverse reaction to that awakening there
are people it’s just way too expensive to to see that and i think the coping a way to cope with that is to make it not
an illness it’s not an illness you don’t have to know why um and so i think as people more awaken there’s going to be
this other end of that spectrum that’s going to fiercely fight to not see it and one of the ways to do that is to just say it’s not even an illness it’s
like a coping mechanism so i think in a positive sense it’s a sign of that awakening they’re both you know signs of
each other inflammation yeah right we don’t know what causes it and
it’s so huge that we can’t even really define it that’s how do you work with that
i think vaccines are a huge part of it because they’re so toxic i think it’s a
it’s a poisoning of the of the neurology of the immunity
um a lot of autistics have huge
gut issues and have terrible digestive issues
um so i think that yes it is vaccines but only in so much as the
vaccines are poisoning the children and some children can clear
um toxins faster and easier and some can’t and some it accumulates
in them and yeah i mean they’re given to the muscle the muscle doesn’t
it just sits there and it gets absorbed by the system and it doesn’t go through
yeah metallic the adjuvants are almost always metallic in some nature and we have aluminum
we have an uh an electrical system and placing something metallic inside of an electrical system is going to cause
it to be sensitive if you have a an alarm or that better yet the drive-in at
crystal hamburger shop you can take a tin can and if you place it right on the concrete exactly the
right spot you’re going to someone’s going to come on the speaker and say welcome to crystal now take your order please and
no one’s there the car is setting off the sensor which is making someone behind the counter
think someone’s there and i’m telling you that that is the autoimmune response that causes autism
you were responding and responding responding responding to a legitimate source of metal inside your immunity
field and everyone around you is telling you this is here to make you better so of
course it’s an autoimmune disease and we’re looking at how the intensity has to uh it gets short-circuited
because the entire time the alarm’s going off the sensor alarm is going off all the time like from the moment you
get up until the moment you go to bed it’s always going off which means you’re looking at creating a state for the
child to stop not really stop but to suppress the sound of that alarm so you
can still cope and have a day that most of us will call normal if if enough of us get on board
and so yeah i think that’s definitely what’s happening but it really does sink home debbie’s point which is that
it will only make you less compassionate because you’re being victimized by the uh autoimmune response that your body’s
having all the time 24 7. and if your attention is is directed
towards um like self-protectionism because there’s
something going wrong with you then you’re not going to have the the energy and the wherewithal to direct that
if my head was on fire most of you would comment about how rude you thought i was and how
uncompassionate i am and how i’m not able to really focus or really stay on task
and it’s because my head’s on fire of course i’m not going to be able to do those other things there’s no
way but if it’s always on fire 24 hours a day all the time and you can’t see any flames how many people in the room are
actually going to really understand that it’s a very small few so small few we’ve had to create a special kind
of communicator that comes into the school that acts as a liaison between the teacher and the student
we had to create that because of this autoimmune problem that we’re too much
in denial about so yeah over a hundred autoimmune diseases
since vaccines over a hundred
and all the allergies and food sensitivities and all that it’s you know that is not it at all food
sensitivities just come from what james is talking about heavy metal poisoning and other kinds of poisoning so
you can’t get these things even pollen pollen is like
should be like a non-threatening thing it’s just from a tree or plant and you
know people that get their allergies tested they test differently each time oh now
it’s dandelion no i’m not allergic to dandelions anymore i’m allergic to um elm trees you know
so that’s all indications and more and more people having allergies it’s all the same thing
to me that would be a great thing talk about allergies and why they like
where they come from i’m definitely allergic to peanuts and happened since i was little like it could kill me i don’t have any other allergies but um
yeah and i i would argue and i would argue that the peanut allergy is is a result of the mass
autism all of us all of us i’m not saying just the autistic people i think every one of us is suffering from autism in some way
because we’re having an autoimmune problem with our environment and that environment happens to be us
the the the things that we give each other the the the chemicals that are in the water all the vaccines all of those
things are part of that so i’m not even trying to say there’s just one class of people that are autistic i think all of us are that’s why we’re that’s why with
the whole gluten thing is it autoimmune response people the people that are insisting i’m on a
gluten-free diet right now is is specifically because there’s an autoimmune problem in their system and
they’re trying to say peanuts are too dangerous i don’t know what’s in it so therefore it’s now off limits
same with gluten that’s what happens when you have a piece of metal taped to the sensor
inside your home that’s supposed to detect whether or not a window is opened or closed there is a piece of gum
wrapper tapped to that taped to that and it will always go off now and there’s nothing we can do as long as
we’re living in a climate where we’re normalizing this or pretending like it’s non-compassionate to talk about
and we’re struggling debbie has a lot more electricity than the average person and i’m saying that most of the average
people are going to have the same thought process debbie had and they’re just going to feel like because of how cruel they were because they happen
to dare suggest that an autist might have trouble with compassion when really the
entire world’s telling them that autists have more compassion than anyone could ever possibly imagine that they have
superpowers and you need to put more vaccines into your kids so they can count toothpicks as it falls i’m
telling you that is the fashion of where the mainstream even likes to dance with this idea it’s not a problem
it’s a feature it’s a feature that’s where we’re at right now i’m calling these things
they’re working on a vaccine for autism
uh i’d like to add something on this topic i don’t know how true this uh this theory is but there is a theory that
i do believe obviously with this what i was talking about with the metal my teeth that electromagnetic spectrum and
having like metals in your bloodstream and everything is definitely a factor but there is this
other theory by this guy andreas keckler that people get their immune systems weakened
by the by the vaccines and then parasites take over and then the nutritional
deficiencies can cause learning disabilities or otherness i
guess in in children and i i definitely think that with the peanuts or a lot of things that are like hard to
to to pass through your digestive tract if you start having like parasites or some kind of thing with
your micro uh gut biome that uh you know there’s this other thing leaky
gut syndrome that potentially could be causing all kinds of things to be passing through your
into your bloodstream that’s not supposed to happen and et cetera but i just wanted to get this guy he’s he’s
been quacked because he has uh i think his chlorine dioxide
solution that he he recommends to try to cleanse yourselves of the parasites but
i just want to throw that in there yeah i think there’s so many secondary
things that come in like parasites bacteria you know which seem to be a
real thing you can see them under the microscope they come in and they mop up you know there’s parasites that actually
devour the heavy metals then if you want to get rid of them you have to do it in the right way so they don’t burst open
in your body and dump the metal in some other place you know there’s a whole science to that but it’s like
it seems that the the core is this poisoning that’s been going on
through heavy metals through the vaccines i did not know one kid
when i was a kid and i’m 70. so i go back a long way i didn’t know anybody who had autism
um or notice any and i noticed because we had children in wheelchairs that was
a thing we had mental retardation they call it mr now um that was a
definite thing i did not know anybody with autism until i don’t know in my 30s maybe
and um yeah and the schedule just exploded like somewhere around
there were some laws that were passed and then the set the schedule exploded like around
1986 i think it was yeah and the difference is enormous and
i didn’t know anybody with peanut allergies that’s another thing so
that’s all secondary to me allergies the parasites all this stuff but the primary is the what what you
want to cure or stop is this metal poisoning
um malcolm good to see you buddy go ahead um can you hear me yeah you sound great
i’m not very good at the buttons i’m sorry um i’d like to add something to this
conversation because i’m i live with my son who is autistic
and ex shows some less compassion than i would expect but
he’s coping quite well he holds down a very senior job
but he works in a i.t industry where all his colleagues
are all bloody autistic and i think there is something about
this vaccine thing that especially affects boys
because the i.t industry is sucking in mainly boys
to do this really awful job of just sitting in front of a computer all day
writing lines and lines and lines and lines of code not seeing the sun shine
not getting out there and having fresh air or anything who else in their normal life would want to do that
but autistic kids and it’s mainly boys that are being lined up for this it’s
almost like they’ve designed the vaccine for this purpose just my pennies worth
i like that almost you’re so optimistic
have anything to say on that well it’s definitely true there are and what the stats are like
six to one [Music] boys to every girl yeah that’s right
this is why i don’t really have a lot of patience or tolerance for anyone that’s trying to normalize it or for anyone that wants to be offended
when i say things like that because it’s just it’s just look around man we’re past the part where we’re gonna
act like we’re offended by something like this it’s there’s so many more deeper things that are happening right
now that we need to move past that that’s a really good excuse to play that offended thing i think racism is the
same thing we don’t need to watch the world burn if we can prove that one of us is a racist it changes the topic entirely and now
now you’re on this superficial game of cooties it’s a similar kind of tactic to to get out of it which is why
cure autism now closed and why i’m not uh in that industry anymore too same kind of thing i don’t have the right
attitude to be in that space so james pathetically my daughter does
have compassion i’ve seen her grow up she’s 21 next week so how do i wrap myself around like oh
she’s not compassionate when i’ve seen it um i think you could maybe start by
deconstructing that that maybe james didn’t say my daughter does not have compassion
because she has autism that what jim said is there’s an autoimmune attack that’s happened to her
system and most of her electricity is being used for that defense which is stopping those calories from flowing
into her plasmatic compassion engine which just allows you to naturally be
uh compassionate in the world around you is all and that if there’s a state of mind or a focus or a
meditation i would imagine that the compassion would be huge would be monumental as huge as it would be with
any of us if we were no longer in pain or if we were not under strife or if we were not being attacked
through some sort of inflammatory denial system that we have inside of our body
that only then would we just have more electricity to pay into that uh budget
for being compassionate so it’s not that ancestors that extra core
the energy if you have like you know a stronger core coming in from
here i don’t know if it’s stronger core as much as it’s kind of like nature i mean you could say well this this plant is
really hardy so it did better but it it really could just be that it did better
because epigenetically the cards were in its favor to where it’s going to really thrive in this certain place and time it
could even be a cactus that maybe isn’t even the best to survive in all all different avenues
but in this one particular case it is that nature seems to be more like that where we’re constantly uh
letting uh the the system itself uh breed through us using the principles of
chance using the principles of natural selection that it really more tends to deal with
right place at the right time in the right kind of posture it could be epigenetics but those epigenetics
probably came from your great grandparents being in the right place at the right time with the right posture and so they’re just able to pass down
more epigenetic wisdom to you basically so in this case it could be that the autists will be the only ones that might
actually survive if we look at this snow crashy in future where every single uh
thing that happens is going to only take place on a computer in a case like that
someone that has those aptitudes that could feel comfortable there would actually find themselves thriving and
doing very well and it might even be the only way to survive is to be autistic to
survive the next three four hundred years right so none of us really know what’s considered uh
the better trait or the worst trait it’s more just about what is survival and what’s going to be uh happening to us as
the weather changes in the world
sorry forrest marity i don’t know if you’ve heard of him forest mariti m-a-r-e-a
has done a lot of interesting research on this and this is back to um i forget what his
name was that just spoke um living with his son with autism and noticing that the
boys seem to be more heavily affected than the girls
forrest’s hypothesis was that
males and this goes to the the polyvagal theory that males when they’re being
male children when they’re being attacked and when you’re holding a child down and
um injecting them in four different limbs that’s an attack that they will have more of the fight or
flight response whereas the girls will have more of the friend and mend
response and the fight or flight is more of a
causes more of a like adrenaline rush and a cortisol rush and it circulates
you know the toxins more quickly and brings them up to the brain whereas the friend and mend is the
opposite it sort of shuts it down and so i thought that was really interesting he
also brought up the fact that what do you do right after you leave that well
baby check-up you strap them into a car seat you restrain them
and then drive home and that whole process of restraining them after doing that
adds to the polyvagal response he’s really fascinating um forrest marity i highly
recommend people check him out he did something called crooked it shows
how asymmetrical our faces have become since the advent of mass vaccination
and um he also did something called the autism vaccine which looked very closely
at the aluminum adjuvant and how how that has really
since they started using that that has really jump started the autism epidemic
there’s a lot i could talk about this for days but um and that’s not even counting the the
marisol and the mercury before it that’s why i think it’s all really comes down to these shorting the the ability to
short the electrical system you’ve got to beat your arm that was specifically designed again i
don’t have a problem with a vaccine my beef is with the edge of it you understand there’s a difference it’s the
adjuvant if you were to put the vaccine in your arm without the adjective your body
would never even notice it’s the actual adjuvant that it’s being uh
that your body’s responding to and i think that that’s why so many of these things are able to be swept under the
rug do you know why because in double blind studies they use the adjuvant in both
the adjuvant is inside the placebo i’m not making this up no yeah
it’s so obvious yet so blindly just hidden it’s it’s
amazing it will never get to the bottom of that because we’re 72 injections down
the line and we would have to stop all 72 of those to go hey wait a minute this
kid doesn’t have a peanut allergy anymore what the wrong with him
that’s how it will take so long to even get back to that spot yeah
it could even be like the groundwork um being lane for uh transhumanism
like connecting us to um electricity and the machine making us more
conductive aluminum makes us more conductive and react more to electricity i mean you
put aluminum in the microwave and look at what happens it’s just the theory that i have
but the radiate the radio waves and the aluminum in our bodies
well it’s definitely safe to say that a hive is forming there’s an actual hive from it and when
you don’t have a myocardial wall i think you might be more apt to join that hive and to want to help the hive and to be a
part of the hive and i don’t think i think it’s either symbolic or planned i don’t care
which that there’s this hiv this manufactured thing that has the word hive in it and
it and the first thing it does is eliminate your immune system which makes you uh dependent on the queen
for your immunity and what is happening right now every nine months you need a cova vaccine in
certain certain countries now every nine months you need to come report to the queen and she will give you
life or she will not give you life this is what i mean by i don’t know the
whole term here it could be the only way we would ever survive is by going through the autism tunnel and emerging
the other side and having this promethean wake up but at just the right time because the first person that wakes
up is usually the one that gets stopped out they’re not usually like the pinnacle you know overlord of the new
race it’s usually going to be the guy that’s like somewhere in the middle that he wakes up but then he makes it past
this around this and it was only because of his autism that he was able to even survive it so i am not here to say that
organic uh you know grain fred human is the only way to survive i don’t know that
none of us do so none of them better or worse we’re just simply responding to how much we’ve
changed over the years and we have look at the gender dysphoria
couldn’t you see how the gender dysphoria right now would just be another function of an autoimmune
response that your system itself is is having an autoimmune response that’s that’s
manifesting itself as gender dysphoria because that makes perfect sense to me
that that’s how it would see the same with the bell’s palsy face that’s in everybody now
and eventually a computer will be able to track and show you that and show you well yeah over the you know after
analyzing all the faces that we have here here’s here’s where that progress it’s probably already been done but who
wants to release that because now you’d be normal or not normalizing it
you want to go cure it you sicko bigot how dare you
i just had my daughter in the hospital for the past not last night but two nights before she
fell off a slide and broke her arm terribly and she’s four this was on tuesday and she
had to have major surgery on wednesday three hour surgery and i had to stay overnight in the hospital
with her for two nights this week and um try like
the snack room in the pediatric inpatient like i’m rummaging through it
trying to find something edible for her and and this is just like one thing in the
whole experience but like the most healthiest thing i could find was campbell’s tomato soup
and if you look at the ingredients in campbell’s tomato soup like the second ingredient is high fructose corn syrup
and like the third ingredient is like wheat they put wheat and and high fructose corn syrup it was ridiculous
it was maddening it was like she the surgery was needed but everything else
there that we did was just so and it was just everything i could do
to like get through this experience for her with her and um you can see you can see
how we are where we are so easily just looking at these things just
looking at what they want to feed your kid when they’re in the hospital it’s crazy like turkey bacon fake eggs
no salt can’t get regular soda all the soda not that i drink soda but like just noticed at dartmouth-hitchcock all of
the drinks are diet you can only get aspartame drinks you can’t get sugar drinks but you can get
the campbell’s soup with the high fructose corn syrup in it just crazy sorry
i’m sorry it’s the world we’re living in and it’s hard to face and a lot of people would rather just not see it
and another difficulty is that you know then you watch your your grandkids your well not your kids because you have
somewhat of a choice about that but your your chil your grandkids you watch them get all these shots
and you want them to believe in in what they’ve had done to them
that is my cross to bear is how to manage that
you know my belief being what it is and then they have this
completely opposite belief and it is vitriolicity
trying to deal with that one because i don’t want them i want them to stay
you know i don’t want them to go down the tubes because all of a sudden they’re like oh i have these poisonous shots
you know so yeah you guys get that
it’s even vitriol if you don’t get it you know you’re going to be a child going my mom’s neglected me because she
wouldn’t give me my vaccine so i can’t play soccer what a sick world i live in
right so it’s
that’s my cousin he was untouched and ran out and got all all of us he got caught up with everything after he
realized his mom didn’t have him vaccinated his whole life and just went and celebrated his birthday with him and he told me that i
was just like floored i just really didn’t have much to say because i was like
my god just yeah mind blowing this is why if you choose to do
something like that you need to talk to your kid about it constantly yeah from a very young age and explain because when
they’re little they get it they’re like yeah why would i want a needle stuck in me with with
with with all the stuff like it makes total sense like thanks thank you but if you just do it or don’t do it and don’t
say anything and then send them to school where they’re gonna hear all about how
you know how good they are then of course they’re gonna think that their mom’s neglecting them and then that she’s crazy like i got my kids i’m not
saying it can’t change but i’ve got them right now where they like we talk we have open dialogues about
this and they get it and my boys have had some vaccines because it sort of took me a while to
fully figure out as a you know working as a nurse it was a really hard
step for me to take to stop vaccinating so it took a number of years
but you know one of them definitely got injured from the one that he got and i’ve he’s seven and i’ve talked to him
about it and you know he said well why did you get why did you get that for me and i’ve had to i had to tell him like well i at the
time i thought it was the right thing to do and i was doing it because i i you know
because i wanted to take care of you and that’s it and they get it they do kids
kids get it or they can
is there some type of like have you spoken out about this elizabeth on any type of format just it sounds like
you’re really knowledgeable you might be a really great resource for moms and dads who are or even kids who are
hearing that for the first time and you know i’ll have this power see aquarium age you can create your own
channel you can do like yeah i’m working on it um
my life is hectic but um i am working on it i’m actually i’m actually working on a
certification for becoming a coach like a wellness coach
right which you don’t even need certification but it does just help you to set up a business and stuff
and so i’m sort of working out the details about what i want that to look like but um
certainly something like this i would like to integrate into that it sounds wonderful sounds great sounds
like you’re the perfect person for the job talk about this i
the videos i’ve done i did a history of autoimmune diseases which is just a historical timeline of all the
autoimmune diseases showing how how they just quadrupled on top of each other and that video was thrown off and i was
kicked off youtube for a couple weeks pretty much all seven strikes that i’ve gotten i’d say five of them have been
vaccine related just trying to describe what what the truth is of vaccines it’s very very difficult and expensive work
to do very very very hard and i think that’s more because of the normalization around
it it’s not really the the one bad guy that wants to euthanize everyone for a transhumanist future as
much as it’s everyone else wanting to insist that there’s no way vaccines are bad because i’ve already put 50 in my
kid and i don’t want to have to swallow this right now that that’s really what what i think is
more going on out there it’s the self-protection of the parents trying to protect
it’s inflammation right same same principle as inflammation yeah but you got to grab the fire too
it’s worth it hi everybody i chair um that i’m on the
other side of things where i have totally unvaccinated children they’re 18 and 21.
and so we’re living we’re living in in the world where
we can’t get into colleges and school and we’re so we’re completely ostracized from
from the society in these ways and so all these doors for my children have been closed
um opportunities and it is like so painful just like james was saying it’s like you’re down to if you do
and damned if you don’t they were um both they both were in a waldorf school
from the time they were like two years old until 15. and so it’s interesting
it really was a test group because there were no peanut allergies in their
whole community of kids about 120 children and
most because most of the kids were not vaccinated um so it really is i mean that’s unheard of
unheard of to like have a group that large of children and none of them had a peanut allergy
so to me that just says it all you know there were like dairy allergies and gluten allergies but i think those
are like parent like hippie parent you know projections or whatever
they were legit but um and so i feel like the steiner schools
up until 2020 and uh or actually sooner than that i’m in california i’m in san diego so all
these laws have come in in the past few years for vaccines which is really like clamp down on us so hard
so even waldorf schools have not been able to circumvent this
so up until that point it really was and is a test group for for all of this
um and it’s amazing and also to point out the transhumanism
aspect because this this group of or this type of education completely you know um
denies technology up until high school um so
there i don’t know there’s also some link that i that i believe is with the
over attack and that’s coming too soon for these kids and it’s sort of coupling with
these um these uh all of the metal right the the metal combined with the with the the
talk is just this perfect storm that is you know that’s
that’s just unstoppable but once again it’s like there’s like this there’s like these
groups of people that you can look to to remember what
people are supposed to be like what humans are so i just thought i’d share that
thank you lindsay good to see you thanks um i
mean this might sound sidetracked but i think the only way to win is you have to get both generations
like lindsay and elle smith the the the the progress you make will only be
uh will only take root if your child instills it also because
your grandchild is probably going to be more into you anyway into your belief
structure anyway it’s like the cross weave kind of a thing so if you can make it past your children
that phase where they’re like you denied me my right to have vaccines if you can just get past that i think your entire
genetic line has a really good chance at staying outside of that system but
you have to be able to get your child to not tangent you and say well i want to be my own person which means i’m going
to go get all the vaccines that i can find that thing seems to be the thing that’s holding our our family tree from
liberating itself from this the most i don’t know how to do that i’m just saying that in my mind if you can watch
both generations both cross weaves be anti-vaccine i think the the family
tree’s safe but you gotta that’s a tough gauntlet to to crawl through i think it comes from authentic
authenticity if you can be authentic as a parent then it can pass on you know if you’re
really really really you yeah i agree and that’s where all compassion comes from that’s where all
your energy is going to come from you’re going to be at your most fully sustainable when you’re authentic with
yourself right you’re going to have more energy and that’s going to be more charisma and people going to smell that posture more and just say well posture
just feels good to me they won’t even know why so all excellent tactics
we’re a minute over any final words for today’s dojo
as a lifelong gamer it’s been really interesting to see how important gamer spaces have become for
boys and men young men especially that’s been it’s cool like that’s one of the cool new refuges that’s been kind of
cut out and still manages to keep a lot of that at bay
yeah it’s a whole different world all right let’s unmute and say goodbye
uh thanks for being here everybody really enjoy the dojo goodbye
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